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-32-
On Friday there was another panel to consider relationships between the
medical social worker and the doctor. Two doctors entered into the discussion -
Dr. Bailey, Psychiatrist at Sunnybrook Hpl., and Dr. John Patterson who is in general
medicine and is also Director of the Chest Unit at Christie St., and at Sunnybrook.
Miss Johnston, as chairman, threw out the following question - "What does the doctor
expect of the medical social worker? What cases does the doctor refer to the medical
social worker? What does he think does not belong to the medical social worker.?"
Dr. Bailey started out the discussion on "What to expect of the medical social
worker" by stating that she must consider herself a part of the team. The medical
social worker can go out to find out something about the patient as a person. She
should never work on her own. Dr. Patterson started out with the statement that the
medical social worker is to do the work the doctor Is incapable of doing. There are
many cases in which he cannot get to the bottom of it all. The doctor who does not try . ,
to find out all he can about the patient is not doing his job. In general medicine not
all cases need to be seen by the medical social worker. It is not the job of the
medical social worker to explain treatment. That is the job of the doctor. If, for
example, a patient has been told about thoracoplasty and he still is uneasy about it,
the medical social worker should tell the doctor about this uncertainty on the part of
the patient, and the doctor could then follow up his explanation.
There followed some discussion about a summary of the medical social workers
findings. Dr. Bailey felt that all the information which the social worker put down in
writing should be included in the doctor's folder. Dr. Patterson,on the other hand,
felt there should be a summary. He stated that doctors would not read any long
discourse.
The definition of a specialist was given as "A person who knows more and more
about less and less, until he knows everything about nothing."
It was necessary to leave before this panel was completed. The institute was
a very great success and I believe has laid the foundation for a better understanding
of the medical social worker and her function in the hospital and in the health field.
This foundation of better understanding must be followed in some active way. Perhaps
at some future date we might have something in a Canadian Nurses Association workshop onj
the relationships between the medical social worker and the nurse. The time would soon
seem ripe to bring this up for discussion at least*
July 11th. 1948
Prince Edward Island
Following the meeting of the Canadian Nurses* Association in Sackville,
June 28 to July 1, motored to Prince Edward Island on July 2nd, taking with me the
three nurses ffrom Toronto, Miss Wallace, Miss Fair and Miss Sneddon and also Miss
Wright from British Columbia and Mrs. Bennett, Chief Nursing Officer, Ministry of
Labour, Great Britain. We arrived at Charlottetown at lunch time. After lunch took
the three Toronto nurses to Cavendish. Frieda dnd Miss Edda MacDonald who conducted
the Workshop, School of Nursing of the Future, came along for the ride. It was a very
wet day and the roads were muddy. Had a lot of fun coming home. That evening I at
attended a short meeting of the Executive Officers of the C.N.A. The officers who were
with the Executive last year all were very tired. The meetings in Sackville were grand 1
but must have been very hard work for those who were responsible* On Saturday, July
3rd, we had an all day Executive meeting at which the committees, the chairmen and
members for the coming Biennium were appointed. Following the meeting in the afternoon,
there was a tea* Government House which I attended for a very short tine, and then spen
the rest of the day with my relatives. Sunday was devoted to social activities,
beginning with a luncheon at Dalvay on the north shore. The executive were the guests
of the provincial government on this occasion. After luncheon at Dalvay we motored
Object Description
| Rating | |
| Title | [1948-1949 Diary Hamilton Ontario] |
| Creator | Creelman, Lyle, 1908-2007 |
| Date Created | 1948-1949 |
| Sort Date | 1949 |
| Extent | 171 pages |
| Subject | Nursing |
| Genre | Diaries |
| Type | Text |
| Format | application/pdf |
| Language | English |
| Notes | Only pages with writing were imaged. Appears to be her full personal record of the Baillie-Creelman Survey. |
| Access Identifier | ARC-Creelman-2-4 |
| Digital Identifier | creelman_02_04_01 |
| Is Part Of | History of Nursing in Pacific Canada |
| Source | Original format: University of British Columbia. Archives. Lyle Creelman fonds. Diaries and logbooks. ARC-Creelman-2-4 |
| Date Available | 2015-03-17 |
| Publisher - Digital | Vancouver : University of British Columbia Library |
| Rights | Digital copies are provided for research and personal use only. For permission to publish or otherwise use this material contact the UBC Archives at lib-ubcarchives@lists.ubc.ca |
| Catalogue Record | http://www.library.ubc.ca/archives/u_arch/creelman.pdf |
| DOI | 1.0214446 |
Description
| Title | creelman_02_04_01_037 |
| Sort Date | 1948 |
| Transcript | -32- On Friday there was another panel to consider relationships between the medical social worker and the doctor. Two doctors entered into the discussion - Dr. Bailey, Psychiatrist at Sunnybrook Hpl., and Dr. John Patterson who is in general medicine and is also Director of the Chest Unit at Christie St., and at Sunnybrook. Miss Johnston, as chairman, threw out the following question - "What does the doctor expect of the medical social worker? What cases does the doctor refer to the medical social worker? What does he think does not belong to the medical social worker.?" Dr. Bailey started out the discussion on "What to expect of the medical social worker" by stating that she must consider herself a part of the team. The medical social worker can go out to find out something about the patient as a person. She should never work on her own. Dr. Patterson started out with the statement that the medical social worker is to do the work the doctor Is incapable of doing. There are many cases in which he cannot get to the bottom of it all. The doctor who does not try . , to find out all he can about the patient is not doing his job. In general medicine not all cases need to be seen by the medical social worker. It is not the job of the medical social worker to explain treatment. That is the job of the doctor. If, for example, a patient has been told about thoracoplasty and he still is uneasy about it, the medical social worker should tell the doctor about this uncertainty on the part of the patient, and the doctor could then follow up his explanation. There followed some discussion about a summary of the medical social workers findings. Dr. Bailey felt that all the information which the social worker put down in writing should be included in the doctor's folder. Dr. Patterson,on the other hand, felt there should be a summary. He stated that doctors would not read any long discourse. The definition of a specialist was given as "A person who knows more and more about less and less, until he knows everything about nothing." It was necessary to leave before this panel was completed. The institute was a very great success and I believe has laid the foundation for a better understanding of the medical social worker and her function in the hospital and in the health field. This foundation of better understanding must be followed in some active way. Perhaps at some future date we might have something in a Canadian Nurses Association workshop onj the relationships between the medical social worker and the nurse. The time would soon seem ripe to bring this up for discussion at least* July 11th. 1948 Prince Edward Island Following the meeting of the Canadian Nurses* Association in Sackville, June 28 to July 1, motored to Prince Edward Island on July 2nd, taking with me the three nurses ffrom Toronto, Miss Wallace, Miss Fair and Miss Sneddon and also Miss Wright from British Columbia and Mrs. Bennett, Chief Nursing Officer, Ministry of Labour, Great Britain. We arrived at Charlottetown at lunch time. After lunch took the three Toronto nurses to Cavendish. Frieda dnd Miss Edda MacDonald who conducted the Workshop, School of Nursing of the Future, came along for the ride. It was a very wet day and the roads were muddy. Had a lot of fun coming home. That evening I at attended a short meeting of the Executive Officers of the C.N.A. The officers who were with the Executive last year all were very tired. The meetings in Sackville were grand 1 but must have been very hard work for those who were responsible* On Saturday, July 3rd, we had an all day Executive meeting at which the committees, the chairmen and members for the coming Biennium were appointed. Following the meeting in the afternoon, there was a tea* Government House which I attended for a very short tine, and then spen the rest of the day with my relatives. Sunday was devoted to social activities, beginning with a luncheon at Dalvay on the north shore. The executive were the guests of the provincial government on this occasion. After luncheon at Dalvay we motored |
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